Sanrenmu ZB 786


A shot of the ZB 786 alongside the Byrd Meadowlark :

This review consists of :

Specifications

The SRM ZB 786 is a small folding back lock with a thumbstud :

The edge is 0.015" thick and 0.030" wide which gives an edge angle of 14 (1) degrees per side.

Stock testing : main

The initial sharpness was decent. The ZB 786 can slice newsprint and scrape shave a little, but is very aggressive on a slice, and slices light jute under 500 grams of tension with less than 0.5 cm of edge. A check under 50X magnification (picture on the right) explains the performance. The edge was ground with a very coarse abrasive and then hit with a buffer. The white spots are the micro-serrations left by the rough abrasive. A few passes on unloaded leather (10 passes per side) and the knife would now push cut newsprint, shave, and slice the jute with less than 0.25 cm of edge, pretty much the same sharpness on a new Spyderco / Cold Steel knife.

To get a feel for the cutting ability of the ZB 786, a piece of fresh alder was carved into a piled of shavings. Alder is a very soft wood, usually softer than pine and when dry makes a very nice kindling as it burns very fast and hot. This small folder cuts very well as expected given the full flat grind and thin and acute edge. As the wood is so soft it was easily cut with light force and there were no issues. The knife could easily make thin shavings easily and simply by changing the angle slice very deeply and work heavy pieces off of the wood. But a different experience was had when doing the same work on some hardwood when much more force had to be used to cut the wood as it was simply much more dense. Again the cutting ability was solid. In terms of number of cuts necessary, the ZB 786 compared very well to a Mora #1260 but there was no comparison in terms of the ergonomics. The Mora had a nice filling grip which was comfortable in any orientation but the ZB 786 pokes and prods any full grip and has a high rate of fatigue as it is uncomfortable and also provides just a three finger grip. This is obviously meant to be a small light use folder of course, but there are lots of small folders which can work in heavy grip.

Utility

An assortment of materials cut to check the edge for any major defects, from left to right :

No issues with any of the above, sharpness was high enough to cut all the materials well, and the edge handled all of the materials with no visible damage.

Slicing up some cardboard, again the slim stock and thin and acute edge zips through cardboard and the narrow blade easily turns in the cardboard. A couple more details :

On the thicker cardboard even a few minutes work made it obvious this was not the intended use of this knife. There simply is not a comfortable way to hold this knife and apply a lot of force without it being abrasive. The main problem is the clip which is very squarish and generates hot spots immediately.

Food

In the kitchen compared to an actual paring knife it is significantly behind, but the force is still minimal. The ZB 786 takes a few pounds to make a cut through a carrot and a optimal ground paring knife is less than a pound. But compared to other folders, this knife does very well and the slim blade allows it to turn well so it can peel a potato much easier than a wider blade like a Manix for example. Using it on :

It fares well, again the high flat grind and thin and acute serve it well. The only real issue is lack of blade length which restricts deep cuts. The handle ergonomics are not really an issue because so little force is being used in the cutting.

Brush Work

Using the ZB 786 for heavier work it was used to clean up a section of ditch which contained light brush, alders, some young pine and of course grasses and light brush. Of course the ideal tools for this work are

and the folder can not be expected to come close to those tools which are more than ten times easier and faster. A Junglas and a folding saw were on hand and used for comparison and of course both fared much better than the folding knife and could process the brush many times faster but of course are much heavier and take up far more space. But the folder could cut even the thicker wood simply by bending them and slicing through them with the knife. As long as the wood can be bent this will work very well.

When the brush was cut and the thicker wood separated out then the knife was used to break down the wood and remove all the limbs. With heavy cuts, 50-75 lbs of force applied, using sweeping motions athe folder would clear the small branches easily. The larger branches had to be sliced off individually. This was no problem as the knife cuts well but again the Junglas was many to one times faster and can sweep an entire side of a stick clean while the ZB 786 is cutting off one of the thicker limbs. But with either knife fatigue was not really an issue and again the only real issue with the folder was the small handle on the folder which gets abrasive with extended use. But in any case a decent amount of wood was cut and processed, hundreds of heavy slices, no lock play. A full size folder would of course be preferred but this was much easier with the small knife than bare handed.

The ZB 786 was also used to cut the wood to length using a small makeshift mallet as shown in the video on the right. It was used for about an hour cutting up all the sticks to foot long lengths for fuel. Here are a few critical points to keep in mind which allowed this work to be done with minimal stress on the lock :

Comparisons

An interesting point of comparison for this blade is the Byrd line. The main difference is that the Byrd line is hardened to 61 HRC and the Sanrenmu is spec'ed at 57-58. Is the difference enough to notice doing some basic cutting, and measuring sharpness in some very straightforward ways when both blades are at the same angle of 14-15 degrees per side with a fine DMT finish? To start :

After the pencils both blades show the barest glint off of the edge in 1-2 barely visible spots, both can still slice newsprint with no noticeable effect.

Switching to some harder to cut material, both knives were used to

On the rope using a 50 lbs draw it took on average 7-11 slices to cut through a piece. Both blades cut off ten sections, there was no significant difference noticed, the Byrd needed 9.3 (4) slices to make a cut and the Sanrenmu 8.7 (3). After the rope cutting neither blade could slice newsprint at all. Sharpening was fairly trivial, a small DMT pad (4") Both blades now again easily shave and push cut newsprint.

As an attempt to see if the steels could be separated in performance if a bit more precision was used to measure the difference between them a food can was cut with each blade with the intent to check the edges under magnification :

Both blades again have very minimal edge damage, in order to see it you have to put them under light and see it reflecting from the edge, they still slice newsprint well.

Under 50X magnification as shown on the right there is no significant difference seen. Note the section in the pictures is the most heavily damaged section of edge. The majority of the edge had damage less than half shown and about 25 percent was undamaged at 50X magnification. Note that this isn't chipping, it is both direct wear and flattening, again this would be expected in this steel as it is a medium carbon, low carbide stainless so has a high edge stability. Both blade are restored to a push cutting edge on newsprint with just a few minutes on a small DMT dual/pad.

As a final extreme check the edge on both knives was reground to a very acute profile. The Sanrenmu was brought down to 6.8 (5) degrees per side and the Byrd to 7.3 (5) degrees per side (both had a very light microbevel due to rounding of the stone in sharpening). With these new very acute grinds the knives were used to :

At this point there was minor glinting on both and a noticeable loss of ability to cleanly slice newsprint, but no significant edge damage.

Overview

Comments and references

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Most of the pictures in the above are in the ZB 786 album at PhotoBucket.


Last updated : 11:29:2011
Originally written: 11:29:2011
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